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Jeffrey Shaw

882: Natalie Franke – Community in Self-Employment: Uniting as Independent Business Owners


It's built into my sign off that, “you may be in business for yourself, but you're not in business by yourself.” You are not alone. You're part of a much larger community, and we need to come together. My guest today, Natalie Franke, has her pulse on self-employment better than most. In today’s conversation, Natalie highlights the significance of terminology and how it can impact the sense of unity and identity within the self-employed community. She also discusses the growing trend of self-employment, and the need for infrastructure and support for independent business owners. Together, we explore the importance of building relationships, reframing failure, overcoming self-doubt, and the role of communities in supporting personal and professional growth. I am positive that Natalie’s inside perspective will offer you valuable insights and, more importantly, provide a comforting reassurance that you are part of a thriving and supportive community.

Natalie Franke is an author, community builder, and advocate for independent businesses. As the Chief Evangelist at HoneyBook, one of the founders of the Rising Tide, and host of the Independent Business podcast, she has made it her mission to champion entrepreneurship and support independent professionals around the world. Her first book, Built to Belong, was published in 2021 and her second book, Gutsy, hits shelves later this year.

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Natalie Franke, thank you so much for being here!

Remember, you might be in business FOR yourself but you are not in business BY yourself.

Be your best self. Be proud and keep changing the world.


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Host Jeffrey Shaw is a Small Business Consultant, Brand Management Consultant, Business Coach for Entrepreneurs, Keynote Speaker, TEDx Speaker and author of LINGO and The Self Employed Life (May 2021). Supporting self-employed business owners with business and personal development strategies they need to create sustainable success.

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